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The Streaming Payout Shake‑Up, Explained: Asmongold’s Kick Earnings vs. Twitch (Nov 2025) — And What Creators Should Do This Week

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The Streaming Payout Shake‑Up, Explained: Asmongold’s Kick Earnings vs. Twitch (Nov 2025) — And What Creators Should Do This Week

On November 5, 2025, streamers woke up to a fresh, very real data point: top creator Asmongold showed $165,178.32 in Kick earnings for October (from just 30 paid streams) versus $19,763 on Twitch over a comparable window. That gap isn’t just drama—it’s a live case study in how payout models, incentives, and multistream rules shape your income right now. Below I break down the latest numbers, the platform policy updates from the past 48 hours, and a step‑by‑step plan to protect and grow your revenue before the end of the month.

What changed in the last 48 hours (and why it matters)

  • Asmongold’s October earnings reveal went public this week: ~$165.2K on Kick in October vs. ~$19.8K on Twitch between Oct 5–Nov 3. He also said multistreaming cuts his Kick take roughly in half, implying exclusivity boosts hourly incentives substantially. [1]
  • YouTube (Nov 3) recapped new creator safety and monetization context: rolling out likeness detection to help creators find and remove unauthorized AI-altered videos; and piloting a “second chance” program for some previously terminated creators—two moves that affect brand safety and monetization longevity. [2]
Why this is timely: The Kick vs. Twitch payout delta is peaking while YouTube tightens identity protection—creators who adjust now can lock in higher RPMs and reduce brand risk for Q4 deals.

The money math: Kick vs. Twitch vs. YouTube (November 2025 reality)

Revenue mechanics you can bank on

  • Kick subscriptions: 95/5 split (creators keep ~95%). For a typical $4.99 sub, that’s about $4.75 to you. Kick’s Partner Program/“KCIP” incentives layer hourly pay for qualified partners. [3]
  • Twitch subscriptions: standard 50/50 split; expanded “Plus Program” now offers 60/40 at 100 Plus Points and 70/30 at 300 Plus Points (cap removed). US Tier 1 web price is $5.99 since 2024. [4]
  • Twitch ads: creators can earn 55% on ads when using the Ads Manager (e.g., 3 minutes/hour), per Twitch’s updated model. [5]
  • YouTube: 70/30 on memberships and fan funding; Shorts ad revenue sharing pays creators 45% of the Shorts “creator pool.” [6]

The fine print that moves your net

  • Kick multistream trade‑off: Kick’s new multistream feature can reduce Kick revenue “by up to 50%” versus streaming exclusively on Kick—exactly what Asmongold hinted at. [7]
  • Kick hourly restrictions: As of Mar 31, 2025, streams in the Slots & Casino category are excluded from hourly pay eligibility. [8]
Platform Core split Extras that boost/limit pay What it means for $5K/mo target
Kick Subs: ~95/5 (≈$4.75 per $4.99 sub) Partner hourly incentives; multistreaming may reduce partner earnings; gambling category excluded from hourly. [9] ~1,053 Tier‑1 subs (4,750/4.75) before tips/ads/sponsorships
Twitch (standard) Subs: 50/50 55% ad share with Ads Manager; US Tier‑1 web price $5.99. [10] ~1,669 Tier‑1 subs (5,000 / ~$3.00)
Twitch (Plus Program) 60/40 or 70/30 after qualifying 60/40 at 100 Plus Points; 70/30 at 300; cap removed. [11] At 70/30: ~$4.19 per $5.99 → ~1,193 subs for $5K
YouTube Memberships/fan funding: 70/30 Shorts pool pays 45% to creators; long‑form ads vary by RPM. [12] ~1,433 members at $4.99 (≈$3.49 net) for $5K baseline
Key takeaway: On subs alone, Kick generally requires ~30–40% fewer Tier‑1 subs to hit the same dollar target as Twitch standard. Twitch’s Plus tiers narrow the gap; ads can help—but only if you actually run them. [13]

Case study: What Asmongold’s week means for midsize creators

His October math—~$165.2K on Kick vs. ~$19.8K on Twitch—reflects a perfect storm: Kick’s high sub split + partner incentives, multistream penalties, and Twitch’s lower baseline sub split unless you’ve unlocked 60/40 or 70/30. The lesson isn’t “leave Twitch,” it’s “price your time against each platform’s current incentives.” [14]

“If I went exclusive on Kick, this number would be twice as high,” Asmongold said, noting multistream reductions. The platform design, not just audience size, sets your ceiling. [15]

Policy shifts you should factor into your Q4 plan

  • Kick Partner requirements: verification + minimums (avg live CCV, hours, subs, unique chatters) before hourly incentives. Check your dashboard and apply via the Partner route. [16]
  • Twitch Plus Program: more streamers can now unlock 60/40 and 70/30; 70/30 cap removed—big for high‑sub channels. [17]
  • YouTube likeness detection: monitor & request removal of unauthorized AI-altered copies—protects your brand and deal flow. [18]
  • X payouts (context): creator pay is tied to Premium user engagement, not ads in replies; useful for text/video threads but volatile. [19]

Who should prioritize which platform right now?

Starter (<100 CCV) 🎯

  • Primary: YouTube (search + long‑form RPM + Shorts growth), Twitch standard for discovery and community.
  • Why: Kick’s partner hourly is out of reach until you meet thresholds; build catalog and SEO first.

Growing (100–500 CCV) 🚀

  • Primary: Twitch Plus path (hit 100+ Plus Points → 60/40, then 300 → 70/30) + test Kick Partner application. [20]
  • Multistream? Yes—but track if Kick’s reduced rate offsets discovery upside. [21]

Established (500–2,000+ CCV) 🧮

  • Run rigorous A/B months: exclusive Kick (hourly max) vs. multistream (reach max). Compare total RPM, CPM, sponsor lift.
  • On Twitch, lean into Ads Manager (55% share) and maintain 70/30 via Plus. [22]

Practical playbook for the next 30 days

1) Set earnings targets per platform

  • Kick target: “$X via subs + $Y hourly.” Use your current CCV and hours to estimate hourly ranges; then add subs/gifts. (Kick Partner doc shows live CCV, hours, subs, unique chatters and VODs as gating metrics.) [23]
  • Twitch target: “$X subs + $Y ads.” If you refuse ads, you must replace that 55% share with subs/memberships or sponsors. [24]
  • YouTube target: “$X memberships + $Y Shorts pool + $Z long‑form ads.” Shorts pay is 45% of pool—volume and consistency matter. [25]

2) Optimize your split math

  • Move gift‑heavy pushes to the platform with the highest sub split during launches (Kick 95/5; Twitch if you’ve unlocked 70/30). [26]
  • On Twitch, schedule predictable 3‑minute ad blocks per hour to unlock the 55% ad share without nuking retention (bunch them at natural breaks). [27]

3) Decide where (and when) to multistream

  • If you’re close to Kick Partner thresholds, consider a 30‑day “exclusive” sprint to test the true hourly rate vs. the documented multistream reduction (up to ~50%). [28]
  • If you’re sponsor‑led, favor the reach of multistreaming now and negotiate make‑goods using cross‑platform view totals.

4) Protect your brand and RPM

  • Enable YouTube likeness detection and periodically search for unauthorized AI‑altered copies siphoning sponsors and shorts placements. [29]
Earning the same $10,000/month — how many Tier‑1 subs do you need?
Platform Assumed net per sub Subs needed
Kick (95/5 on $4.99) ≈ $4.75 ~2,106
Twitch (standard 50/50 on $5.99 web) ≈ $3.00 ~3,334
Twitch (70/30 on $5.99 via Plus) ≈ $4.19 ~2,387
YouTube Memberships (70/30 on $4.99) ≈ $3.49 ~2,866

My recommendation (Nov 5, 2025):

  • If you average 150–500 CCV: Push to qualify for Twitch Plus 70/30 while applying to Kick Partner. Run a December A/B: 2 weeks multistream vs. 2 weeks Kick‑exclusive. Compare total take‑home (subs + ads + hourly + sponsors).
  • If you’re <150 CCV or YouTube‑first: Keep YouTube as your “banker” (searchable catalog + Shorts growth); stream on Twitch for community; only test Kick once you’re near Partner metrics.
  • For all: turn on YouTube likeness detection so copycats don’t undercut sponsor RPMs. [30]

Market context: Why the money is moving

  • Creator platforms are projected to out‑earn traditional media for ad revenue in 2025, per WPP’s forecast—platforms are aggressively tuning payouts to attract you. [31]
  • X de‑linked creator pay from ad inventory to Premium‑user engagement, reinforcing the “pay creators to post” playbook even outside live video. [32]

Real‑world examples to model now

  • Asmongold’s October mix shows the power of platform incentives over pure audience size; he earned ~8x more on Kick in prior months with fewer subs and hours. Use this to renegotiate Q4 sponsor bundles (price by cross‑platform reach, not one platform’s subs). [33]
  • Twitch Plus unlocks can materially cut your sub requirement (3,334 → 2,387 subs for $10K). If you’re within 10–20% of 300 Plus Points, prioritize Tier‑2/3 gifting drives for three consecutive months to qualify. [34]
Pricing reality check (US): Twitch Tier‑1 web subs are $5.99 since mid‑2024; mobile app subs are pricier. If most of your audience buys on mobile, expect slightly higher gross—but your split percentage still governs your net. [35]

Tools to execute (fast)

Calculator prompts

  • “If I stream 60 hours this month at my average CCV, what’s my Kick hourly + subs take vs. Twitch’s subs + 3 min/hour ads?”
  • “How many Plus Points can I add by converting 50 gift subs to Tier‑2 during launch week?” (T2=2 points; T3=6 points). [36]
Risk tips: Keep a 60‑day buffer in your budget. Incentive programs change quickly; policies like Kick’s multistream reduction or category exclusions can materially affect payouts overnight. [37]

Summary: Your next best moves

  • Run a 30‑day revenue A/B: Kick‑exclusive vs. multistream; track total dollars, not just subs.
  • On Twitch, chase Plus Program thresholds to narrow the split gap; use Ads Manager strategically for the 55% ad share. [38]
  • On YouTube, protect your IP with likeness detection and keep publishing Shorts + long‑form to diversify. [39]

Bottom line: As of Wednesday, November 5, 2025, the most lucrative live‑video stack for many midsize creators is a tuned combination—Kick for partner incentives and sub split, Twitch for Plus 70/30 and ad share, and YouTube for durable catalog revenue and brand safety. Use the numbers above to set platform‑specific revenue targets and renegotiate your Q4 sponsor packages now.

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