The Streaming Payout Shake‑Up, Explained: Asmongold’s Kick Earnings vs. Twitch (Nov 2025) — And What Creators Should Do This Week
The Streaming Payout Shake‑Up, Explained: Asmongold’s Kick Earnings vs. Twitch (Nov 2025) — And What Creators Should Do This Week
On November 5, 2025, streamers woke up to a fresh, very real data point: top creator Asmongold showed $165,178.32 in Kick earnings for October (from just 30 paid streams) versus $19,763 on Twitch over a comparable window. That gap isn’t just drama—it’s a live case study in how payout models, incentives, and multistream rules shape your income right now. Below I break down the latest numbers, the platform policy updates from the past 48 hours, and a step‑by‑step plan to protect and grow your revenue before the end of the month.
What changed in the last 48 hours (and why it matters)
- Asmongold’s October earnings reveal went public this week: ~$165.2K on Kick in October vs. ~$19.8K on Twitch between Oct 5–Nov 3. He also said multistreaming cuts his Kick take roughly in half, implying exclusivity boosts hourly incentives substantially. [1]
- YouTube (Nov 3) recapped new creator safety and monetization context: rolling out likeness detection to help creators find and remove unauthorized AI-altered videos; and piloting a “second chance” program for some previously terminated creators—two moves that affect brand safety and monetization longevity. [2]
The money math: Kick vs. Twitch vs. YouTube (November 2025 reality)
Revenue mechanics you can bank on
- Kick subscriptions: 95/5 split (creators keep ~95%). For a typical $4.99 sub, that’s about $4.75 to you. Kick’s Partner Program/“KCIP” incentives layer hourly pay for qualified partners. [3]
- Twitch subscriptions: standard 50/50 split; expanded “Plus Program” now offers 60/40 at 100 Plus Points and 70/30 at 300 Plus Points (cap removed). US Tier 1 web price is $5.99 since 2024. [4]
- Twitch ads: creators can earn 55% on ads when using the Ads Manager (e.g., 3 minutes/hour), per Twitch’s updated model. [5]
- YouTube: 70/30 on memberships and fan funding; Shorts ad revenue sharing pays creators 45% of the Shorts “creator pool.” [6]
The fine print that moves your net
- Kick multistream trade‑off: Kick’s new multistream feature can reduce Kick revenue “by up to 50%” versus streaming exclusively on Kick—exactly what Asmongold hinted at. [7]
- Kick hourly restrictions: As of Mar 31, 2025, streams in the Slots & Casino category are excluded from hourly pay eligibility. [8]
| Platform | Core split | Extras that boost/limit pay | What it means for $5K/mo target |
|---|---|---|---|
| Kick | Subs: ~95/5 (≈$4.75 per $4.99 sub) | Partner hourly incentives; multistreaming may reduce partner earnings; gambling category excluded from hourly. [9] | ~1,053 Tier‑1 subs (4,750/4.75) before tips/ads/sponsorships |
| Twitch (standard) | Subs: 50/50 | 55% ad share with Ads Manager; US Tier‑1 web price $5.99. [10] | ~1,669 Tier‑1 subs (5,000 / ~$3.00) |
| Twitch (Plus Program) | 60/40 or 70/30 after qualifying | 60/40 at 100 Plus Points; 70/30 at 300; cap removed. [11] | At 70/30: ~$4.19 per $5.99 → ~1,193 subs for $5K |
| YouTube | Memberships/fan funding: 70/30 | Shorts pool pays 45% to creators; long‑form ads vary by RPM. [12] | ~1,433 members at $4.99 (≈$3.49 net) for $5K baseline |
Case study: What Asmongold’s week means for midsize creators
His October math—~$165.2K on Kick vs. ~$19.8K on Twitch—reflects a perfect storm: Kick’s high sub split + partner incentives, multistream penalties, and Twitch’s lower baseline sub split unless you’ve unlocked 60/40 or 70/30. The lesson isn’t “leave Twitch,” it’s “price your time against each platform’s current incentives.” [14]
“If I went exclusive on Kick, this number would be twice as high,” Asmongold said, noting multistream reductions. The platform design, not just audience size, sets your ceiling. [15]
Policy shifts you should factor into your Q4 plan
- Kick Partner requirements: verification + minimums (avg live CCV, hours, subs, unique chatters) before hourly incentives. Check your dashboard and apply via the Partner route. [16]
- Twitch Plus Program: more streamers can now unlock 60/40 and 70/30; 70/30 cap removed—big for high‑sub channels. [17]
- YouTube likeness detection: monitor & request removal of unauthorized AI-altered copies—protects your brand and deal flow. [18]
- X payouts (context): creator pay is tied to Premium user engagement, not ads in replies; useful for text/video threads but volatile. [19]
Who should prioritize which platform right now?
Starter (<100 CCV) 🎯
- Primary: YouTube (search + long‑form RPM + Shorts growth), Twitch standard for discovery and community.
- Why: Kick’s partner hourly is out of reach until you meet thresholds; build catalog and SEO first.
Growing (100–500 CCV) 🚀
Established (500–2,000+ CCV) 🧮
- Run rigorous A/B months: exclusive Kick (hourly max) vs. multistream (reach max). Compare total RPM, CPM, sponsor lift.
- On Twitch, lean into Ads Manager (55% share) and maintain 70/30 via Plus. [22]
Practical playbook for the next 30 days
1) Set earnings targets per platform
- Kick target: “$X via subs + $Y hourly.” Use your current CCV and hours to estimate hourly ranges; then add subs/gifts. (Kick Partner doc shows live CCV, hours, subs, unique chatters and VODs as gating metrics.) [23]
- Twitch target: “$X subs + $Y ads.” If you refuse ads, you must replace that 55% share with subs/memberships or sponsors. [24]
- YouTube target: “$X memberships + $Y Shorts pool + $Z long‑form ads.” Shorts pay is 45% of pool—volume and consistency matter. [25]
2) Optimize your split math
- Move gift‑heavy pushes to the platform with the highest sub split during launches (Kick 95/5; Twitch if you’ve unlocked 70/30). [26]
- On Twitch, schedule predictable 3‑minute ad blocks per hour to unlock the 55% ad share without nuking retention (bunch them at natural breaks). [27]
3) Decide where (and when) to multistream
- If you’re close to Kick Partner thresholds, consider a 30‑day “exclusive” sprint to test the true hourly rate vs. the documented multistream reduction (up to ~50%). [28]
- If you’re sponsor‑led, favor the reach of multistreaming now and negotiate make‑goods using cross‑platform view totals.
4) Protect your brand and RPM
- Enable YouTube likeness detection and periodically search for unauthorized AI‑altered copies siphoning sponsors and shorts placements. [29]
| Platform | Assumed net per sub | Subs needed |
|---|---|---|
| Kick (95/5 on $4.99) | ≈ $4.75 | ~2,106 |
| Twitch (standard 50/50 on $5.99 web) | ≈ $3.00 | ~3,334 |
| Twitch (70/30 on $5.99 via Plus) | ≈ $4.19 | ~2,387 |
| YouTube Memberships (70/30 on $4.99) | ≈ $3.49 | ~2,866 |
My recommendation (Nov 5, 2025):
- If you average 150–500 CCV: Push to qualify for Twitch Plus 70/30 while applying to Kick Partner. Run a December A/B: 2 weeks multistream vs. 2 weeks Kick‑exclusive. Compare total take‑home (subs + ads + hourly + sponsors).
- If you’re <150 CCV or YouTube‑first: Keep YouTube as your “banker” (searchable catalog + Shorts growth); stream on Twitch for community; only test Kick once you’re near Partner metrics.
- For all: turn on YouTube likeness detection so copycats don’t undercut sponsor RPMs. [30]
Market context: Why the money is moving
- Creator platforms are projected to out‑earn traditional media for ad revenue in 2025, per WPP’s forecast—platforms are aggressively tuning payouts to attract you. [31]
- X de‑linked creator pay from ad inventory to Premium‑user engagement, reinforcing the “pay creators to post” playbook even outside live video. [32]
Real‑world examples to model now
- Asmongold’s October mix shows the power of platform incentives over pure audience size; he earned ~8x more on Kick in prior months with fewer subs and hours. Use this to renegotiate Q4 sponsor bundles (price by cross‑platform reach, not one platform’s subs). [33]
- Twitch Plus unlocks can materially cut your sub requirement (3,334 → 2,387 subs for $10K). If you’re within 10–20% of 300 Plus Points, prioritize Tier‑2/3 gifting drives for three consecutive months to qualify. [34]
Tools to execute (fast)
Calculator prompts
- “If I stream 60 hours this month at my average CCV, what’s my Kick hourly + subs take vs. Twitch’s subs + 3 min/hour ads?”
- “How many Plus Points can I add by converting 50 gift subs to Tier‑2 during launch week?” (T2=2 points; T3=6 points). [36]
Summary: Your next best moves
- Run a 30‑day revenue A/B: Kick‑exclusive vs. multistream; track total dollars, not just subs.
- On Twitch, chase Plus Program thresholds to narrow the split gap; use Ads Manager strategically for the 55% ad share. [38]
- On YouTube, protect your IP with likeness detection and keep publishing Shorts + long‑form to diversify. [39]
Bottom line: As of Wednesday, November 5, 2025, the most lucrative live‑video stack for many midsize creators is a tuned combination—Kick for partner incentives and sub split, Twitch for Plus 70/30 and ad share, and YouTube for durable catalog revenue and brand safety. Use the numbers above to set platform‑specific revenue targets and renegotiate your Q4 sponsor packages now.
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